An Interview with Borgore
Borgore is at it again, pushing the boundaries of dubstep, metal, and everything in between. He took a few minutes over breakfast to share his thoughts on his “Flex” tour, Tel Aviv, strippers, and much more.
Flavorus: So you’re on tour now and I heard that you were auditioning strippers and pole dancers to go on tour with you as part of your show.
Borgore: Yep, I do have pole dancers on my show, that’s true.
F: Tell me a little bit about that, are you choreographing them yourself or is that something you thought of to go along with your “Flex” video. How did that come about?
B: It started when I did a tour with Hollywood Undead, Asking Alexandria,
We Came As Romans, and D.R.U.G.S. Four metal bands and a dubstep DJ. That was probably the first time that a dubstep DJ toured with a metal band and I was kind of afraid that the crowd wouldn’t dig it. So I was like, “OK, we have all these live bands, and then there’s me, how can I make my show more live and still get the crowd’s attention?”
Well, strippers are the best thing a man can do to provide other men with entertainment, aren’t they?
F: That is true, it’s the oldest profession.
B:So now we added them to my tour as part of my production. We are actually working on a way bigger scale production right now which is gonna involve the two strippers, but have video art as well and an amazing stage that’s gonna be part of the next tour. The next tour is gonna be stupid. But this tour is stupid, too, my pole dancers are way more than just like “Oh, I’m hot, look at me take my shirt off, whatever.” They actually do acrobatic stuff on the poles, I don’t get how a human being does this stuff, it’s an interesting act. It’s an interesting addition to the show, somewhere between strip club and Cirque Du Soleil with some dubstep in it.
F: You said that this came about because you were touring with some metal bands.
I read online that you were part of a metal band in your earlier years, how did you get interested in metal from jazz?
B: I feel that a lot of jazz musicians appreciate metal and vice versa. Both of the genres are very, very demanding as far as skills. It’s not like, you know, playing 4 simple chords. It’s not simple to play. Not that I have anything against folk or country music, don’t get me wrong, or punk rock, because punk is also easy to play. It’s just, it’s very skillful, both of the jazz and metal genres.
F: So did you grow up listening to metal or did you grow up listening to jazz and then transition into it?
B: I grew up listening to everything from the Spice Girls to Cannibal Corpse.
F: That’s a very wide range.
B: Yeah. Seriously. I never had one genre where I was like, “This is all I listen to.” I just like all types of music in general.
F: If you had to narrow it down and pick one person you would consider a mentor for your music as it is now, who would that be? Anyone alive or dead.
B: One person? How is that even possible? What other people have answered this? Who else did you interview?
F: Would you say it was the Spice Girls?
B: Damn, don’t say that, are you trying to ruin my career?
F:Would you say your music is more metal influenced? Because I was also reading that you felt your music was influenced by hip hop.
B: Well you can hear the hip hop influence, isn’t it because of all the hip hop intros?
And I don’t know, man, my music is metal, pop, hip hop, jazz, everything mixed together, electro house. I don’t know. I wouldn’t put genres on it cause I feel that today there’s less and less boundaries between genres.
F: I think that’s a great thing.
B: I’m not complaining, it’s really hard to write, as far as inspiration, because really everything is inspirational.
F:You have a reputation for writing extreme lyrics and taking extreme samples and integrating them into your music, what is your process for coming up with these things?
B:It really depends on the song. Some songs I’ll sit down and start singing something and I’ll be like, “Yo, I gotta fucking write this sick!” And some songs I actually make the beat first and then I’m like, “What am I gonna sing over this beat, you know what I mean?” It really depends, there’s no one method. I wish there was one method ‘cuz then I could’ve made more hits if I had the perfect routine for song making, but I’m still discovering myself.
F:I think your album titles are fascinating. Like you have “Misadventures in Dubstep.” How did you come up with that name?
B: My first and second EPs were both dubstep and we wanted to stay around this vibe of me not getting along with dubstep, well, it’s not really not getting along, it’s more me ruining dubstep. Anyway, the thing with this album is it was being sold to HMV which is the biggest record store in the UK. It was sold to a lot of main stream places and my management was afraid that if I name it “Borgore Ruined Dubstep,” then kids that love dubstep but may not be very familiar with me will think we’re dissing dubstep or something. So we thought of a kind of fun, cool name for the album to say kind of the same thing but not in a negative way, more of a positive way.
F:I loved the album title “Borgore Ruined Dubstep,” I thought it was so creative.
B: Thank you.
F:How did that one come up?
B:People said I ruined dubstep. I said, “OK, I did.” Pretty easy.
F:I never heard anyone say that until after you said it.
B:Well maybe you haven’t been into dubstep for long enough. Four or five years ago when I just started my sound there was nothing like it. Today there’s plenty of noisy dubstep. If you go to India, there’s Indian dubstep. There’s plenty of dubstep. But when I first started there was nothing that sounded like me so I got a lot of criticism. Not that I’m not getting criticism right now, but today is different. Today people just wish me death.
B:Exactly. The criticism used to be somewhat intellectual like, “Borgore ruined dubstep.” Today it’s just, “Why doesn’t Borgore just die.”
F:I was reading you’re from Tel Aviv?
B:I never moved out of Israel, I’m 100% Israeli.
F:So if I were a tourist in Tel Aviv, where would you take me? What are the best clubs there?
B:Well, I could be kitschy and show you the Israeli food, show you the hummus, but as far as clubs, what are you into?
F:I like dubstep.
B:Every Friday there’s a big headliner show. I used to bring big headliners. In 2006 we had 1000 person dubstep shows before anyone else had heard of dubstep. So as far as dubstep, you’re pretty sorted. There’s pretty much dubstep show every day.
F:Are there a lot of EDM clubs or is it primarily dubstep? What do you think the scene is?
B:The scene is Love. As far as culture, there’s nowhere like Tel Aviv. The same day you have Bengal Scream playing one club, Carl Cox will play another club and fucking Avicii will play another club. There’s everything all the time in Tel Aviv.
F:Isn’t it also on the beach, do you have a lot of beach clubs?
B:Yeah, it’s on the beach. It’s the biggest gay scene in Europe apparently, we won this year for the biggest gay scene. I think it’s the biggest hipster scene also, there are like six or seven fucking hipster bars in less than a one mile radius. There’s everything of everything, everything is open 24/7 as well. As far as food, whatever you want to eat , I can take you whenever you want to eat it and everything is walking distance.
Tel Aviv is perfect and I love it.
F:Who do you think are the best Israeli DJs right now?
B:Me! I don’t know, I love Infected Mushroom, they are from a different genre, but I love them. They were people I was looking up to when I was younger in the electro scene. What’s next to come from Israel? Not too much, I’ll be super honest with you.
F:What are you listening to right now? What’s in your top playlist?
B:I change my playlist every day so it’s really hard to say. I listened to Bjork for two days straight recently.
F:What do you think is the most important part of your life as a performer?
B:What’s the most important what? Can you give me an example of an answer? ‘Cuz I don’t really understand the question.
F:Ok, so when I asked 12th Planet this question, he said that the most important part was going out there and making the best of every show, whether it’s 5 or 500 or 5000 people.
B:I love 12th Planet so bad! John is like–there’s no one like him. He’s genuinely nice to everyone, genuinely. Yeah man, I love him so bad. But as far as what you said, what’s the most important thing for me as an entertainer right now, I’ll answer “Whatever John said.”
F:I’ll tell him you said that.
F:Well, I wish you luck on tour and I’ll catch you then next time you come through LA.
B:Alright, thank you, Darling.